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    hockeygod
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    I decided I would start a discussion on junior / CIS / NCAA / ACHA hockey as I suspect this will become an even bigger topic in the future.

    I will also include articles pertaining to junior and college hockey in here… enjoy!

    Dean
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    Things are heating up on the NCAA/CHL front.

    Gregg Drinnan, Taking Note, Feb 7 2012

    Brad Elliott Schlossman of the Grand Forks Herald reports that “College Hockey Inc., is working to enact legislation — either with the oversight of the NHL or through the transfer agreement between USA Hockey and Hockey Canada — to bar Canadian major junior teams from stealing a player who has signed a letter of intent until after the player’s freshman year.”

    As Schlossman reports, NCAA teams can’t recruit CHL players, because they no longer are eligible to play at a U.S. school.

    “We need to have a deal in place with the NHL and with the CHL,” U of North Dakota head coach Dave Hakstol said. “We are going into a back-alley brawl. They are bringing guns. We’re coming with no weapon and one hand tied behind our back.”

    Paul Kelly, the executive director of College Hockey Inc., told Schlossman that “it is our position that once a kid signs a letter of intent, he’s made up his mind and demonstrated it in written form. He should be off limits and shouldn’t be continually recruited until at least after his freshman year. Continued recruiting of players after they’ve committed in writing to college, we find that conduct to be unacceptable. We’ve communicated that fact to the NHL. We’re hoping to bring some order to the process.”

    Schlossman’s complete story is below, including thoughts from Hakstol on the possibility that the NCAA could re-do its rules regarding the college eligibility of CHL players.

    Folks, take cover. The shooting is soon to start.

    —–

    UND MEN'S HOCKEY: Signing day could become vital in the future

    Brad Elliott Schlossman, Grand Forks Herald, February 04, 2012

    Signing day has become, perhaps, college football’s biggest holiday with schools and fans waiting anxiously for players to make their college destinations official.

    In the college hockey world, where players often commit two-plus years in advance of signing and almost always stick to it, signing day passes without registering a blip on the radar.

    That may soon be changing.

    College Hockey Inc., is working to enact legislation — either with the oversight of the NHL or through the transfer agreement between USA Hockey and Hockey Canada — to bar Canadian major junior teams from stealing a player who has signed a letter of intent until after the player’s freshman year.

    And while this is happening, there is a behind-the-scenes movement by some coaches to try to ditch the longstanding gentleman’s agreement between coaches that they won’t recruit players that have made verbal commitments.

    If either happens, letters of intent will become big deals to the college hockey world.

    The Canadian Hockey League, which routinely tries to poach college players and recruits, is driving these developments to an extent.

    UND has lost two highly regarded recruits to the CHL since July in first-round draft pick J.T. Miller and possible 2012 first-rounder Stefan Matteau. Both had signed letters of intent. Miller bolted in July, leaving UND with few options to find a replacement before the start of this season.

    And while the CHL routinely pursues college players, NCAA teams are not allowed to do the same because CHL players are currently not eligible for college.

    “We need to have a deal in place with the NHL and with the CHL,” UND coach Dave Hakstol said. “We are going into a back-alley brawl. They are bringing guns. We’re coming with no weapon and one hand tied behind our back.”

    Paul Kelly, the executive director of College Hockey Inc., is leading the charge to enact the new legislation.

    “It is our position that once a kid signs a letter of intent, he’s made up his mind and demonstrated it in written form,” Kelly said. “He should be off limits and shouldn’t be continually recruited until at least after his freshman year. Continued recruiting of players after they’ve committed in writing to college, we find that conduct to be unacceptable. We’ve communicated that fact to the NHL. We’re hoping to bring some order to the process.”

    If no agreement is reached with the NHL or the CHL, Hakstol thinks it’s worth exploring the possibility of opening up CHL players to colleges.

    The NCAA would have to change its stance on the CHL, but Hakstol believes it’s possible.

    “The first and most important step would be the coaches discussing it and deciding that it would be a good pathway for us to take,” he said. “I think if that group was to decide on it, it would be feasible.”

    The positive for college hockey would be that teams could pluck CHL players, including high-end guys, to replace recruits it loses. If the CHL is open to colleges, it also may be more likely to agree to new transfer rules.

    The negative for college hockey is that all of the high-end players may immediately go to the CHL, knowing that the college hockey window would remain open.

    “We discuss it each year,” Hakstol said. “The sentiment is against it as a body. I’m not speaking for anybody except myself. There are potential pros and potential cons to it. My belief is that we have to look at every potential avenue to improve our game and improve our ability to build quality teams. I believe this is one avenue we need to have more serious discussion about.

    “We have to decide whether or not that’s a worthwhile challenge to take on.”

    Verbal commitments

    In the meantime, verbal commitments have been taking center stage at recent coaches conventions.

    Currently, college hockey coaches do not recruit players once they have made a verbal commitment. In other NCAA sports, coaches routinely pursue them until they have signed letters of intent.

    “I like that our coaches have abided by this gentleman’s agreement,” Kelly said. “It does lead to some abuses — programs that verbally commit a large number of players, probably with the full realization that they aren’t going to be able to take all of them. Not everyone is treating it in the manner that it was intended. But this is a coaches’ issue.”

    Most likely, some of the more established programs — the ones most affected by the CHL poaching players — would be open to ending the gentleman’s agreement. It would allow them to poach top recruits of smaller schools to replace those lost via the CHL or NHL.

    “Verbal commitments, early commitments and long lists of future commitments are serious areas of discussion right now,” Hakstol said. “There are a lot of sides to that issue. It’s a very complicated issue. My opinion has changed over time. I was a very strong proponent of it eight to 10 years ago. I think we need to find a middle ground on verbal commitments.

    “I think we want to continue the gentlemanly side of college hockey and our close-knit community. At the same time, I think it’s time we take a real close look at exactly what we’re doing.”

    Dean
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    #5644
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    NCAA vs. CHL: Strengthening NLIs, Opening College Hockey to CHLers

    Chris Peters, The United States of Hockey, February 8, 2012

    The recent article in the Grand Forks Herald, in which Brad Schlossman interviews North Dakota head coach Dave Hakstol has stirred up a bit of NCAA vs. CHL conversation. It usually doesn’t take much to get tempers flaring in this hotly contested debate, and there has been a wide array of responses, both positive and negative.

    The key points of Schlossman’s piece include the revelation that College Hockey, Inc., is pursuing legislation through the National Hockey League that once a player signs a National Letter of Intent with a college, he is off limits to major junior for one year of college hockey. Letters are typically signed in November or February of the year preceding college. This would prevent situations like players bailing on their commitment in June or July, which happened a lot over the summer (John Gibson, Connor Murphy, J.T. Miller among the notable decommits).

    The late decommits are a real issue as they really tend to hamper college programs. It is not easy to replace a first-round draft pick, or any recruit for that matter, two months prior to classes beginning. There are more instances where recruits have bailed for various reasons, like coaching changes, or changing his mind about what school he wants to go to. However, the ones that frustrate the NCAA is when a player has made a written commitment to a school and that commitment is ignored by an outside entity, that has no such rules to abide by.

    The CHL is merely operating within its own set of rules, as there is no obligation to abide by the NCAA’s commitments. You can’t fault them for that, but if College Hockey, Inc., is to succeed in its aim to strengthen the NLIs, it at least gives the NCAA schools a little more power to keep the players that have said they want to play college hockey.

    Making the NLI a binding document is going to be tough, especially when it’s basically going to probably have to amount to a gentleman’s agreement between the NHL and both the NCAA and CHL. Where it gets a bit more interesting is using the transfer agreement between USA Hockey and Hockey Canada.

    Before a player of a certain nationality can play in a foreign country, he has to be released by his home country’s hockey federation, per IIHF regulations. This is where college hockey may be able to find appropriate leverage to make binding NLIs a reality.

    Without the transfer agreements, who knows what kind of consequences would be able to be put in place if there was some violation. Who would sanction it? You can’t depend on the NHL to. Again, at that point, it’s simply a gentleman’s agreement.

    Another factor: it’s hard to imagine the NHL would prevent its own teams from signing players early, as was the case with Connor Murphy and J.T. Miller, thus ending their college eligibility. However, players that sign NHL contracts the same summer in which they are drafted is rare. So while the NHL might be able to protect college hockey from the CHL in some regard, there’s no guarantee the league would be able to protect the NCAA from NHL teams.

    Neate Sager also brings up a very salient point regarding the strengthening of NLIs.

    …would knowing the letter of intent — which many believe is of contestable legal validity, although it has never been challenged in court — effectively binds a player to attending school cause some to get cold feet about committing and elect to keep their options open? Quite possibly.

    Having spent enough time around players that have to have this inner debate about what to do with their hockey careers, it’s not something I’d wonder about. I’d expect it.

    The elite players would wait longer to make a choice. Even if that’s the case, I think most college coaches would rather have a guy keep his options open for as long as possible, rather than backing out of a commitment he made months prior and leave the team holding the bag.

    It might delay the building of recruiting classes to some degree, but the number of players who wait to make a decision are often among the better players in a class. Those are guys you don’t mind waiting around for.

    The kids that always wanted to go to college, will still commit on schedule. The ones that aren’t sure should be given all the time and space they need for a decision.

    The one area where this could backfire is if players wait to commit until after they are drafted. That’s when it becomes almost too late for schools to add a player to the mix. So that’s a valid concern.

    Players can’t sign NLIs until they are seniors in high school anyway. So there’s still the possibility of kids making verbal commitments at age 15 or 16 and backing out later. College coaches would rather not have any kids break their commitments, but it’s those late ones that are particularly difficult to swallow. Eliminating those would be a step in the right direction as far as college hockey is concerned.

    Hakstol also talked about the benefit of potentially opening up the college ranks to former CHL players if this proposed legislation falls through.

    While it makes sense on many levels, many arguments still remain for why it’s a bad idea.

    First off, allowing CHL players to retain college eligibility could have a gigantic impact on the USHL. More top-end players would go to the CHL fully knowing that they’ll have a fall-back plan. So they can go up and get added exposure, get in front of more scouts on a nightly basis. The top end in the USHL could be significantly diminished in such a scenario.

    While this move would help the NCAA’s depth, it would most likely eliminate many of the top-end players from ever making it to the NCAA. By the time a player’s Junior career is over at age 20, most would go to the NHL or AHL. Only the guys that would have otherwise played lower-level minor-league hockey would end up in college. The quality of play gets dragged down in the college ranks. While the NCAA would remain a developmental option, it also becomes a safety net for CHL players similar to what the Canaidan Interuniversity Sport is right now. That’s an ugly scenario for American college hockey, which has produced NHL talent as long as it’s been in existence.

    Granted, there will still be players that prefer college hockey, and the NCAA was never going to lose those guys anyway. It’s losing those players that are on the bubble that would really hurt. The allure of playing in the CHL, with the chance to go to American college hockey if it doesn’t pan out, is attractive. A player might feel he can get the best of both worlds that way. Which, if it’s allowed, then more power to him.

    Another interesting column came out in the wake of Schlossman’s Herald piece, this one from Patrick King of Rogers Sportsnet. The column is titled “Misguided Anger from NCAA.” I know and respect Patrick a heck of a lot, but in my opinion, the column misses the point of what this debate is actually about.

    A large portion of King’s column is geared towards the fact that the NCAA is limiting itself by not allowing CHL players. Particularly, King takes Hakstol to task for the UND coach’s comments in Schlossman’s piece about how the NCAA is at an unfair disadvantage in this battle. The only thing I didn’t understand, is that in that article Hakstol is quoted from, he admits that there needs to be reform. Hakstol even said he is in support of opening up college hockey the CHL players, which King never mentions, focusing solely on Hakstol’s analogy that the NCAA is fighting with one hand tied behind its back. So I felt it was a bit of a misrepresentation of what Hakstol was talking about.

    King later goes on to chastise the NCAA programs for recruiting kids in Grade 9 without ever mentioning the fact that the WHL annually holds its “Bantam Draft,” the primary method the league selects its players, in which 14-year-old hockey players become property of a WHL member club. For most kids selected in the Bantam Draft, they’re still two years away from even being eligible to play Junior hockey.

    Just for an example… Luke Moffatt was drafted as a 14-year-old bantam second overall by Kelowna. Moffatt would end up verbally committing to Michigan when he was 16 and sticking with that commitment.

    While I absolutely agree that the early recruiting needs to be curtailed, we’re seeing fewer commitments being made by 14-year-old kids. Many players are getting the idea that it is better to keep their options open and make a more conscientious decision at a more mature age.

    It’s unfair to knock college hockey for a poor practice, when a CHL-sponsored league engages in an equal “offense.”

    King also paints the CHL as a bit more innocent, claiming the league is blissfully unaware it is in a battle with college hockey. If it were so blissfully unaware, would Windsor Spitfires GM Warren Rychel routinely crow in the media about his recruitment of college committed players and making every effort to get that player into the OHL? Would Kelowna’s Bruce Hamilton be publicly blasting the USHL and college hockey in his pursuit of Zemgus Girgensons?

    This is not one-sided. I might not go as far as Hakstol who said, “We are going into a back-alley brawl. They are bringing guns. We’re coming with no weapon and one hand tied behind our back.” There is still some truth to his comment, and yes, that one hand is tied behind their backs by their own rules, partially.

    Where I agree with King is that the NCAA needs to take a long look at itself and its policies, which unfortunately are not specifically tailored to hockey. There is certainly need for reform. As all of us can agree, the NCAA is far from perfect in all sports. The only issue is, the NCAA has to make rules that fit across all sports, they don’t make special rules for one.

    As I mentioned, I respect Patrick and really enjoy his work. This column, for me, was a bit off point and perhaps unfair.

    My hope is that one day there is a compromise between the NCAA and CHL. It’s gotten to a point where it feels detrimental to the game to have such a feud. It’s a battle that is masked in “doing what’s best for the players,” when all it really is, is a pair of rival businesses looking out for their own best interests (which you can’t really fault them for).

    To be honest though, it’s getting old. Perhaps it gets worse before it gets better, but count me among those that hopes each finds a way to get this thing figured out once and for all.

    Dean
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    #5649
    hockeygod
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    Misguided anger from NCAA: North Dakota head coach Dave Hakstol is fed up with the CHL.

    Patrick King, Sportsnet.ca, February 8, 2012

    The endless saga that is the Canadian Hockey League and college hockey cold war reached new lows recently.

    North Dakota head coach Dave Hakstol is understandably upset after losing forwards J.T. Miller to the Plymouth Whalers last summer and now Stefan Matteau to Blainville-Boisbriand a month ago. Neither suited up a game (nor will ever suit up) for the school where Jonathan Toews once starred.

    Frustration is giving way to sensationalism, something those within the college game never seem to shy away from. The portrait being painted south of the border is that of a renegade league of bandits, one part Jesse James another part John Dillinger.

    "We need to have a deal in place with the NHL and with the CHL," Hakstol told the Grand Forks Herald recently. "We are going into a back-alley brawl. They are bringing guns. We're coming with no weapon and one hand tied behind our back."

    If a picture can tell a thousand words, Hakstol managed to use far fewer to portray the CHL as a callous, indignant league with no remorse for its ramifications on the college game. It's hardly the first time — and we're betting far from the last — where a coach of a college program cries foul over a rule whose injuries are self-inflicted.

    It is, after all, the NCAA's rule which prevents players from joining their program if they sign a standard CHL contract or play so much as an exhibition game of major junior. Therefore, it's the NCAA, not the CHL, that handicaps its own program.

    It's not exactly like showing up with a knife to a gun fight, which, as per Hakstol's comparison, would actually lessen the disadvantage. This is a supposed war involving two parties, one of which is practically blissfully unaware of its participation. That's more like a back-alley brawl where a punch-drunk boxer is fighting with the image he sees in the mirror.

    College Hockey Inc. is now working on a legislation that would enable any player who signs a letter of intent, as Matteau did, to join the CHL only until after one season in the NCAA.

    Michigan's head coach, Red Berenson, once went as far to say a player "contaminated" his college eligibility by playing major junior in a Globe and Mail story. Others have called it poaching or stealing. We get it. Playing major junior renders one ineligible for college. But is it really necessary to be so dramatic and negative towards another program that did nothing shady or outside of their own rules and regulations?

    No such rule exists where a player can't play in the CHL after suiting up in college. No such rule exists within the CHL that declares a player ineligible of taking his craft to the college game after his junior career concludes.

    Their arguments make about as much sense as the analogy Hakstol presented. We've heard it all before; a player makes a verbal commitment and must then fulfill his obligations. Should he back out, he is then viewed as a liar and accused of using the NCAA as a bargaining chip to land in whichever CHL destination he desires most.

    What's never mentioned is the timing the commitments are being made. To get a leg up on the CHL, players are being recruited and giving verbal commitments around the same time as they're attending a Grade 9 math class.

    Kenny Ryan's father, K.C., once put it in perspective when his son was being wooed by college programs.

    "Here's a kid who is still having sleepovers," he said.

    And yet, when a young kid returns from said sleepover, he's supposed to have his college career sorted out well before high school graduation day. Should he change his mind, as teenagers are prone to do and hardly ever chastised for doing with any other decisions, he's suddenly a liar unwilling to see through a commitment.

    Sometimes it's a matter of numbers. Jack Campbell withdrew his commitment to Michigan to join the Windsor Spitfires last season. As a goaltender, he knew his college options would be lessened if he waited to declare his destination after attending the United States National Team Development Program and the NHL draft, since a team would make sure those spots are taken care of well in advance.

    "Really, what it comes down to is people don't realize that players are getting recruited at such a young age, 14, 15-years old," Campbell said. "Being a goalie, there's only two spots on the team, especially with scholarships and everything. It wouldn't have been possible for me to wait until my (age) 18 year to commit to a college or after the draft."

    If a college coach feels slighted, and there are many examples, he should redirect his anger. Rather than pointing a disapproving finger at the CHL and saying, "shame on you," maybe it's time for those within college hockey to review their constitution.

    Blaming the CHL for doing nothing more than operating their league as they see fit is nothing more than looking for a scapegoat.

    If Hakstol and others feel as though their hands are tied behind their backs, it's bound by the NCAA and not the CHL. And if they're at such a disadvantage, then maybe they should stop looking for a fight.

    Dean
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    #5650
    hockeygod
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    NCAA/CHL Battle Heating Up [UPDATED]

    Chris Peters, United States of Hockey, July 27, 2011

    The college hockey world has been mainly focused on the constant realignment talk, but there’s another big story developing over this summer and it’s not a good one.

    In recent weeks, three of the four college-committed players selected in the first round of the 2011 Entry Draft have decided to go to the OHL. J.T. Miller, previously committed to the University of North Dakota, has reportedly signed with the Plymouth Whalers. Jamie Oleksiak, who would have been a sophomore at Northeastern signed with the Saginaw Spirit last week. And the latest: I was informed by two independent sources that Connor Murphy will drop his commitment to Miami University and will sign with the Sarnia Sting. That is expected to be announced soon.

    That leaves Tyler Biggs, a Miami recruit, as the only first-round draftee that has yet to drop his commitment in favor of the OHL. Biggs reaffirmed his commitment to Miami on the Pipeline Show Tuesday night. His rights are held by the Oshawa Generals.

    Biggs is a Toronto draft pick. Brian Burke has a special connection to Miami and likely wouldn’t push Biggs in one direction or another. Burke knows Miami can develop his first-round pick. That said, Biggs just lost his college roommate in Murphy and there’s no doubt Oshawa has the full-court press on the power forward. You just never know.

    The hits didn’t stop there. I was told last night by a reliable source that John Gibson, easily the top goaltending recruit in all of college hockey, will forego his commitment to Michigan to sign with the Kitchener Rangers. Michael Spath later confirmed this report via text with Gibson and Michigan head coach Red Berenson issued a statement saying, “John Gibson has decided not to attend the University of Michigan or to play college hockey.” This particularly stings for Michigan in that this is the second straight year they’ve lost the top goalie recruit in the country, as Jack Campbell was a previous Michigan commit before signing with Windsor.

    Earlier today, I also got word that Reid Boucher, who was the leading goal scorer for the U.S. Under-18s at the World Under-18 Championship, also will be headed to the Sarnia Sting. Boucher, who was selected in the fourth round by New Jersey, has one year of high school left and was slated to play in the USHL next year before heading to Michigan State in 2012-13. Looks like plans have changed and Sarnia has itself another huge coup, while college hockey takes another hit.

    [UPDATE (7/29): J.T. Miller signed with the New York Rangers Thursday, and Plymouth officially announced Miller signed with them on Friday morning. John Gibson's signing with the Kitchener Rangers was made official Wednesday afternoon. Connor Murphy's signing with the Sarnia Sting was announced Wednesday, shortly after this post was published. Just minutes prior to this update, Sarnia also announced that it had signed Reid Boucher. That's a rough couple of days for college hockey.]

    Not only has college hockey lost the players that saw their profiles raise after being drafted this past June, they’re losing some top-end youngsters as well.

    Three players that wouldn’t have been on college campuses until 2013-14 at the earliest have also gone north. Former BU recruit Anthony DeAngelo, who skated for Cedar Rapids in the USHL this year, signed with Sarnia earlier in the summer. Adam Erne, another BU recruit who played in the USHL last year, was traded to the Quebec Remparts and is expected to sign. Most recently, Brandon Shea, who had previously committed to Boston College and was slated to play at the NTDP this year, has reportedly agreed to a deal with the Moncton Wildcats.

    These three players are top-end 1995 birth years. Unlike their older counterparts who are more developed, we don’t know how good these guys will be in the next two years. We know how good Miller, Oleksiak, Gibson and Murphy are. So college hockey losing those guys hurts a little more, for now at least. However, seeing three high-profile youngsters head north is bad news not only for college hockey, but the USHL as well.

    So what does it all mean? This isn’t a post to argue college or Major Junior is a better option, because that’s a silly apples and oranges argument. Each path has benefits unique to individual players and it is impossible (and unfair) to make a blanket statement of one being better than the other.

    As a fan of college hockey, I think there should be concern, though. Concern that this summer is going to become the norm and that more elite players are going to choose the CHL over the NCAA, thus hurting the level of play in college hockey.

    Does a summer like this give off the impression that the CHL is actually better? To me it doesn’t, but to people unfamiliar with the development process it just might. Most importantly is this signalling to other prospective players that the CHL is clearly the “better” option?

    Brad Schlossman of the Grand Forks Herald wrote about the NCAA’s perception problem, and makes a ton of valid points while focusing on one case. Neate Sager of Buzzing the Net had a counterpoint that I think may have taken Schlossman’s column slightly out of context, but still made valid points along the way.

    I count eight (what I would consider) top-end, high-profile players that have chosen the CHL route after previously committing to a college, all of which are mentioned above. The optics of this are not good for college hockey. In this case, it is not necessarily the quantity of players choosing the CHL route, but the quality. The good players have influence over the next class coming up, without ever having to say a word.

    I posed the question on Twitter as well, asking my followers: Knowing however much or little you know about this topic, which is better? CHL or NCAA? Most responded with “it depends on the player,” which I think is correct. It does in some ways. I’m not fully on board with that though, only because I believe if a player is good enough he’ll make it to the NHL regardless of path. I had to ask the question though, to see if that perception that one is better than the other exists. I was impressed and surprised to see the majority of people who answered couldn’t pick one over the other or say one was better.

    A few folks have asked whether all of this realignment talk has had any affect on the players’ decisions. I would have to say no. It might have a little influence, but having been around top-end teenage hockey players, realignment is likely a tiny blip on their radars. The only thing on these kids’ minds is going to the NHL, in almost every single case. That player is going to make the choice that he and his family (or in some cases his NHL team) feel is the best path to get him to the NHL as quickly as possible.

    Another issue at hand is the lateness of these broken commitments. Neate Sager had a great take on this very topic today. Regardless of what side of the debate you’re on, the college teams are getting royally screwed with these late defections.

    I’m not going to criticize a kid for changing his mind. I’ve been around long enough to know that it happens far more than any of us would like. However, the teams that are just a month away from fall practice have to entirely shift plans for the season. They may have to find replacements. They can only hope they’ll be as lucky as Notre Dame was last year in being able to call in T.J. Tynan who was scheduled to play one more year of junior and went on to lead the team in scoring after Kyle Palmieri went pro. Odds are, that won’t be happening. It’s a shame for those schools to have such little time to recover.

    At the end of the day, college hockey is a great path for pro development and shouldn’t be considered an inferior product to the CHL. It is just… different. That said, these high-profile defections deliver quite a blow to the college game. What is left to do? How does college hockey keep this from continually happening?

    I guess that’s up to College Hockey, Inc., the commissioners and head coaches to figure out, but there really is no easy answer in this whole ordeal. I take issue with people saying the CHL “stole” a player, because at the end of the day, the choice is the kid’s (though its fair to say the CHL teams can be extra persuasive). College hockey has to find a way to make sure more kids are choosing it as opposed to the CHL.

    It has been a long summer, and it might get longer, for college hockey. As a fan of the college game, I hope we continue to see a great on-ice product and more college kids making it to the NHL.

    All that said, we all have to understand that these kids have options and there is never going to be an absolutely correct answer for which option a player should take. It’s one of those things that makes hockey’s development system entirely unique and often times entirely confusing.

    Dean
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    Rockets battling over import’s playing rights

    Larry Fisher, Kelowna Daily Courier, August 19, 2011

    The Dubuque Fighting Saints have won this battle, but might still lose the war. That is, the war over dynamic Latvian forward Zemgus Girgensons, a top 2012 NHL draft prospect.

    The Kelowna Rockets selected Girgensons with the 45th overall pick in this summer’s CHL Import Draft, but the 17-year-old won’t be reporting to the Central Okanagan for next week’s rookie camp. Instead, Girgensons will be returning to Dubuque, Iowa, where he posted an impressive 21 goals and 49 points in 51 games last season for the Fighting Saints of the United States Hockey League.

    Still, Rockets president and general manager Bruce Hamilton hasn’t given up on luring Girgensons north of the border at some point this season or next.

    “It’s at a stalemate,” Hamilton said. “His agents think (Dubuque) is where he should be playing and he’s very loyal to that program. But I know as soon as he’s drafted, the NHL team’s not going to want him in Dubuque and they’re not going to want him going to the University of Vermont, either. We’ll have a real good opportunity to have him here for sure next year, and potentially after Christmas this year. When the Latvian team plays in the world juniors, we’ll be very aggressive again there.”

    There is no transfer agreement between the WHL and USHL and no transaction would be necessary for Girgensons to jump ship mid-season. The Rockets have rolled the dice on high-end Europeans in the import draft and successfully landed them in years past, such as current Calgary Flames forward Mikael Backlund, who was another late arrival but helped lead Kelowna to the 2009 WHL championship and Memorial Cup final.

    The Rockets have also had success with another Latvian product, Lauris Darzins, a left-winger who called Kelowna home from 2004 to 2006, was drafted by the Nashville Predators and currently plays in Russia’s Kontinental Hockey League. Hamilton even had Darzins help in selling Girgensons on Kelowna and the Rockets, to no avail.

    “We’re going to go after him still,” Hamilton insisted. “I’m not worried about him starting the year down there because the USHL is stealing players out of Canada on a daily basis right now, so it won’t bother me if we steal one out of there.”

    For now, the Rockets will have to settle for one import — Slovakian sniper Filip Vasko, the 58th overall selection this year. Kelowna traded for that pick, acquiring it from the Portland Winterhawks, after catching wind that Vasko was contemplating coming overseas to play.

    “This guy was never coming over and then we got word late in the draft that he would consider coming and would consider coming here, so we took a gamble and picked him,” Hamilton said of Vasko, who is expected to arrive in Kelowna next Wednesday. “We’re excited to have him coming, and from all reports he’s a pretty good player. He’s another skilled guy and he’s going to be a good draft pick next year, too.”

    Rockets head coach Ryan Huska is looking forward to Vasko’s addition, to see where and how he fits into the depth chart. Also 17, Vasko has played against older competition the past two seasons in Slovakia’s under-20 league, tallying 23 goals and 60 points in 78 games, plus 32 goals and 71 points in 61 games at the under-18 level.

    “I’ve had great reports from a lot of different coaches on this young man,” Huska said. “One guy you could make a comparison to is Zach Franko, where he’s a very fast and skilled forward that will hopefully fit in nicely with one of our offensive lines.”

    Vasko joins a talented offensive core that already consists of last year's leading scorer Shane McColgan, Franko and another top 2012 prospect in Colton Sissons, with the potential for veterans Brett Bulmer and Mitchell Callahan to return if released by their respective NHL clubs.

    Huska added that he’d gladly welcome Girgensons to the fold in the future. The hope is these imports, specifically Vasko for the time being, will be upgrades on last year’s castoffs — forwards Andreas Stene of Norway and Gal Koren of Slovenia.

    “We went through a tough year last year,” Hamilton said. “The two kids we had, they both came and did everything they could, but they just weren’t good enough. And there’s no sense having those (European) guys if you’ve got Canadian guys that are better than them. Hopefully (Vasko) will be a better fit for what we want and need.”

    —–

    Spitfires continue pursuit of Schmaltz

    Jim Parker, The Windsor Star, October 21, 2011

    The Windsor Spitfires will draw a lot of attention for the 2012 NHL Draft.

    Eight current players on the roster are up for the draft for the first time in June, but Spitfire fans should not forget the name Jordan Schmaltz.

    “He’s a top 10 player,” Spitfires head coach Bob Boughner said.

    And someone the Spitfires have been trying to bring to Windsor since the club took the offensive-minded defenceman in the seventh round of the 2010 OHL Draft from the Chicago Mission minor midgets.

    “We’ve talked to his advisor,” Boughner said of Kurt Overhardt, who also represents Spitfire goalie Jack Campbell.

    “We’ve expressed our heavy interest to get him into a Spitfire uniform.”

    For two years, the Spitfires have had their overtures rebuffed by Schmaltz and his family, who have son Nick Schmaltz eligible for the 2012 OHL Draft.

    “It hasn’t been as pleasant as I had expected,” Spitfires general manager Warren Rychel said. “I think he’s making a mistake in not exploring his options.”

    At this point, the 18-year-old Schmaltz is playing his third season in the United States Hockey League with the Sioux City Musketeers in Iowa.

    Next year, he’s scheduled to attend North Dakota University on a full-ride scholarship, but the Spitfires believe professional hockey will come calling long before he gets his degree.

    “He won’t play four years of college hockey,” Rychel said.

    “(And) you can’t attend an NHL training came when you go to college.”

    International Scouting Service has Schmaltz rated 21st overall, but at six foot-two and 175 pounds with a big offensive upside, most expect him to climb much higher.

    When the draft arrives in June and Schamltz’s name is called in the first round, that’s when things might get interesting.

    “He has to make a decision,” Boughner said.

    “College is the right decision for some guys, but a guy like that, we’re the one that going to get you prepared for the NHL.”

    Boughner said Cam Fowler, who compares to Schmlatz in many respects, is a perfect example.

    He turned down a scholarship from Notre Dame University, came to the Spitfires for one season where he won a Memorial Cup.

    He was then taken in the first round by the Anaheim Ducks and went straight to the NHL.

    “The Cam Fowler situation is a perfect scenario where you could be in the NHL in 18-to-24 months,” Boughner said.

    For now, the Spitfires would just like Schmaltz to make a phone call and not to someone and not to someone in club management.

    “Just look at Cam Fowler,” Rychel said.

    “(Schmaltz) should pick up and phone and call Cam Fowler or his dad should pick up a phone and call Perry Fowler (Cam’s dad) or pick up the phone and talk to Jack Campbell, (who walked away from a scholarship at the University of Michigan to join the Spitfires).”

    If that call doesn’t come before the draft, the Spitfires are hoping it might come after the draft like it did for many players from this year’s NHL Draft.

    J.T. Miller was headed to North Dakota until the New York Rangers made him a first-round pick and he changed directions and joined the Plymouth Whalers. He wasn’t the lone player to spurn college hockey for the OHL.

    Goalie John Gibson passed on Michigan to join the Kitchener Rangers, Jamie Oleksiak left Northeastern University to join the Saginaw Spirit, Reid Boucher opted for the Sarnia Sting over Michigan State while Connor Murphy spurned Miami of Ohio to play in Sarnia.

    “Bob and I have a great relationship with NHL teams,” Rychel said.

    “Hopefully, he’s taken by one of those teams that can give him direction.”

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    CHL vs. NCAA: The Public Pursuit of an American Top Prospect

    Chris Peters, The United States of Hockey, October 24, 2011

    Sunday night, I was alerted to a story from the Windsor Star regarding Jordan Schmaltz. In it, Windsor Spitfires GM Warren Rychel and head coach Bob Boughner reveal that they are continuing their pursuit of Schmaltz, currently a defenseman for the Sioux City Musketeers in the USHL, a top 2012 Draft prospect and verbal commitment to the University of North Dakota.

    That Windsor is hot on the trail of a college-committed American top prospect is nothing new. The squad has had success luring away several previously committed Americans like Cam Fowler, Jack Campbell and Kenny Ryan. There have been other, less publicized, instances where Windsor was unable to secure the rights to players they pursued (Stephen Johns, for example), but they’ve reeled in some big fish over the last few years.

    This curiously timed article really piqued my interest, and it should be required reading for anyone that has been following the ongoing battle between the Canadian Hockey League and NCAA for a variety of reasons.

    First, just to quickly reset the stage…

    Jordan Schmaltz is considered a likely first rounder for this year’s NHL Entry Draft. He was selected by Windsor in the seventh round of the OHL Priority Draft in 2010 at age 16. Schmaltz previously was committed to the University of Wisconsin (a verbal he made at age 14), but later backed out. He then gave a verbal commitment to North Dakota in September of 2010. Schmaltz spent last season with Sioux City and returned this year. Since drafting him, Windsor has been in hot pursuit.

    If the allure of racking up points with the Spits during his draft season wasn’t enough to get Schmaltz to leave the USHL and his commitment to North Dakota, I have a hard time believing his mind will change. If he was going to go, why not this year?

    That is what makes the timing of this piece so curious to me. The season is only a few weeks old, the tumultuous summer of broken commitments to college hockey programs has begun to fade, so why bring this up now? It’s just so out of the blue.

    The Spits are an average team this year, but still possess a winning record in a very tough Western Conference in the OHL. You don’t think… Nah… They couldn’t be trying to get him out of the USHL for this season, could they? Well, maybe, just a bit.

    It is rare for a player to leave one league in-season for another, though not unprecedented. Kenny Ryan left Boston College a few weeks into his freshman season to join Windsor. That said, I can’t recall it ever happening during a player’s draft-eligible season and I don’t see Schmaltz being the first.

    So what gives?

    First off, there might not be a better team in hockey that is as good at utilizing the media as the Windsor Spitfires. This article reads like a public challenge to Jordan Schmaltz. It also plainly lays out the cookie-cutter CHL recruiting pitch, as to why a prospect should choose that route over the NCAA.

    Rychel told Windsor Star reporter Jim Parker that Schmaltz is making a mistake in not “exploring his options.” Now, we have to take Rychel at his word, I guess, but how do we know Schmaltz hasn’t been exploring his options in his own way? I’m not saying Rychel is lying, I’m just saying he’s not Jordan Schmaltz.

    Additionally, Boughner brought up Cam Fowler as a comparable player to Schmaltz and a big reason why the latter should consider Windsor.

    Rychel also mentions that Schmaltz should call Fowler and Jack Campbell and have his father call Fowler’s father.

    That’s great. But why is Warren Rychel telling us this? Most likely, it’s because whatever he’s saying to Schmaltz and his family in private is not getting through. So he’s taking it public.

    This piece allows Rychel to let everybody know Windsor wants Jordan Schmaltz and if Schmaltz doesn’t go to Windsor, he’s making a mistake. Whoever reads the piece is getting that as the takeaway.

    There will be no rebuttal in public from North Dakota, and likely none from Schmaltz himself, and Rychel knows that. North Dakota Head Coach Dave Hakstol can’t say a word about Jordan Schmaltz publicly because Schmaltz has yet to sign a National Letter of Intent. So for now, there is one public voice on this issue, and it’s the voice Rychel most wants you to hear. His own.

    This is not a criticism of Windsor. In fact, I think it might be quite smart. If Schmaltz elects not to go to Windsor, the team has already stated they think that’s a mistake. Then again, perhaps Schmaltz takes the challenge to heart and gives Windsor an extra look (assuming he’s not offended by the public nature of the challenge).

    There are no rules preventing Rychel or Boughner from talking to the media about a prospective player. It’s merely a tool that they have, and they’re using it well.

    So now, it puts the ball is in Schmaltz’s court. The Spits have laid it all out there for everyone to see. Odds are, he sticks with his USHL club this season, continues to raise his draft stock and earns a first round selection, but the war doesn’t end there as Rychel notes in the piece…

    “Bob and I have a great relationship with NHL Teams,” Rychel said.

    “Hopefully he’s taken by one of those teams that can give him direction.”

    Just a friendly reminder from Rychel, regarding the few college committed players that were advised by the NHL teams that selected them in last year’s draft to go the CHL route.

    It’s also a reminder that there are more hurdles than ever before for colleges to overcome in order to get a top player into their hockey programs.

    Schmaltz seems firm in his commitment. He has family ties to North Dakota (including his father, who is an alum). Still, with the landscape the way it is, it seems as though every top player becomes an individual case study on the CHL vs. NCAA battle. Schmaltz will be no different.

    So which recruiting pitch does he become part of next year?

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    john
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    Personally I feel CHL should honor NCAA commitments. I understand why they take players leaving NCAA but it seems they still recruit players that have committed to NCAA.
    Disclaimer. I?m American and played NCAA.
    But the other side is its apples to oranges. NCAA takes 20-21 year old freshman while CHL drafts out of Bantams. Players that are serious about hockey don?t want to wait. I see both sides.

    #5683
    hockeygod
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    Abredeen,

    I too see both sides. I don't like seeing kids make a commitment and then back out. I also question whether either side (NCAA or CHL) should be allowed to 'force' a kid to make a commitment at such a young age. I didn't even 'know' what I wanted to study in university when I got there; I took interesting courses that were 'easy' because I was playing hockey and working. I wish I 'knew' what I wanted to study instead of taking the path of least resistance and getting a relatively useless BA degree!

    Right now, the CHL can recruit NCAA players and they don't have any repurcussions if they choose to do so. If it were the other way, I am sure the NCAA would do the same. At the end of the day, it is a competitive business for the CHL teams / NCAA programs and they must do whatever is best for their own programs. They don't care about the opposition. That's reality and a competitive market!

    I think the rules must be re-examined, discussed and then all parties must abide by them (CHL / NCAA / USA Hockey / Hockey Canada / IIHF / CIS, etc.) In my own personal world, these would level the playing field for both systems and not allow for immediate transfer – they must complete a year or sit out a year before being able to play – among other things.

    I played for Spokane while attending school in the US but upon my graduation from junior, I moved back to Canada to finish school (I was recruited by CIS teams) but focussed on coaching instead. Later, I coached in the Tier 2, WHL, Canadian College and University ranks, so my experiences are based on those leagues. The only places I haven't coached are in the NCAA (would like to one day!) and in the US junior league (USHL – maybe coach there one day too?) I was always a fan of the WHL and CIS because that is what I knew best.

    If someone was to ask me my opinion on what direction their son should take, I would say, "if the kid is big for his age (an early developer) and isn't academically inclined, lean towards the CHL. If he is average (or small) for his age and is average or better at school, lean towards Tier 2 with the goal of an NCAA / CIS scholarship." After coaching at Tier 2 and in the WHL, I would also tell the kids / parents to do their homework on the individual programs. Tier 2 seems to be more 'unprofessional' than the CHL; but while the CHL is run like a pro league, that can also have a negative impact. The old cliche: "Sometimes your greatest strength is your greatest weakness – and vice versa!" Caveat Emptor!

    Today, I have similar feelings but truly appreciate putting the education and hockey option first wherever possible (Tier 2 / NCAA or CIS). Hockey is only a game and a very small number play in the NHL. More play in the minors, Europe and at college / university. At the end of the day, the game ends and it is time to 'reintegrate' into society; most likely needing to work and 99.9% of the time, you need at least an undergraduate education to be considered. Kind of like in the 1950's / 1960's – a high school education was needed. Now it's an undergraduate degree or technical diploma… and even now, many places are advertising requirements asking for advanced degrees / diploma standing! I think as time goes by, it will become even more competitive so far as school credentials go.

    Ultimately, I think the CHL has done a number of things that hurt it's credibility and perception when it is compared side by side with the NCAA – either through arrogance or stupidity. The more I see / hear, the more I like the CIS and NCAA. If I was advising my own kids, (if they were to play hockey), I would encourage academics first and this means Canadian university or NCAA.

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    hockeygod
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    Quebec league schedule change does more harm than good

    WILLY PALOV, Halifax Herald, February 17, 2012

    I understand why the Quebec league pushed the start of next season back a couple of weeks.

    It gets them in line with the Canadian Hockey League’s other partners — the Ontario Hockey League and Western Hockey League. It also means teams can ice more legitimate rosters during the early part of the season.

    Opening on Sept. 8 this year meant several league stars were still away at NHL training camps. The Saint John Sea Dogs, for example, were missing a dozen players for a few games. Naturally, they lost those outings to teams that normally wouldn’t have any business making it close against them. Fans who paid to attend those games may not have felt like they got fair value for their dollar.

    So for a lot of reasons, the decision to move opening night to Sept. 20 makes sense. But there are plenty of other reasons why it makes no sense at all.

    For starters, the pre-season is already too long. Players reported to training camp in mid-August last year, like they do every year. That gives teams just over three weeks to make their roster decisions and get everyone on the same page. That’s more than enough time to ramp up for the season, perhaps even too much time for junior teams whose rosters are typically 80 or 90 per cent set before the first skate of training camp is held.

    So now they’re going to add nearly two more weeks to the pre-season to make it a five-week slog? That’s absurd.

    I don’t envy coaches who will now need to find even more ways to keep the players engaged during the tedious lead-up to the season. And if the league decides to pass that time with more exhibition games, I pity the general managers who have to watch their top talent risk injury a few more times.

    Does anyone recall what happened to Marty Frk in the Halifax Mooseheads’ second-to-last game of the pre-season this year? Frk suffered a concussion and missed the first 3 1/2 months of the regular season. Mooseheads teammate Andrew Ryan also broke his ankle during a training camp practice.

    I’m sure the Mooseheads brass were thrilled to lose two top players during a pointless part of the year.

    The obvious compromise would be to start training camp later to make up for the Sept. 20 regular-season opening, but that’s where everyone’s hands are tied. The Quebec college system requires students to be enrolled and available for classes by Aug. 20 each year. Since the majority of the league’s players are from that province, roster decisions must be made for those kids by that deadline.

    It wouldn’t be fair to those players or the teams to start training camp on, say, Sept. 1, when those kids are already supposed to be attending classes. So we’re stuck with the Aug. 15 training camp start.

    What’s worse, by starting the regular season on Sept. 20, the league is compromising the education of every player in the league.

    When the league pushed its season opener into the Sept. 8 range, a bit of breathing room was created in the schedule. The league was able to schedule fewer weekday games so players didn’t have to miss as many classes or sacrifice as much of their study time. Now they have to cram those games into a shorter time frame. For a league that prides itself on its education standards, this is a step backwards.

    An acceptable solution to the education issue would have been to start the season later but cut a few games out of the schedule to make it more manageable for the players. But let’s not be naive. There is no way the league’s owners would sacrifice that much revenue just to lighten the players’ load at school.

    So for better or worse, we have an imperfect schedule with an imperfect set of variables dictating that it won’t be optimized any time soon. C’est la vie in the Quebec league, I suppose.

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    Eric Fink
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    I like the discussion. I think the elite level players are going to make it to the NHL no matter what. In fact, an added bonus for a player like Jaden Schwartz who has gone the NCAA route, is that if he signs next year and doesn't make the parent club, he gets to play in the AHL as opposed to being forced back to the CHL.

    Either way, the teams that sign players at a younger age on both sides of the border are taking large risks at players expense. Would be nice to see both sides not be allowed to commit kids until they turn 17. CHL would not be allowed to have players U17 rostered. This would allow time for the players to explore both options while also taking an extra year to develop and might stop some players who excel at a young age from going the wrong direction.

    #5690
    hockeygod
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    Eric,

    I enjoy the discussions too. "Armchair league presidents!"

    I also agree that if a player is good enough, "the cream will rise to the top" – regardless of which path they take.

    The younger any league drafts a kid, the larger the risk. Kids haven't matured physically, mentally, emotionally, etc.

    Wouldn't it be nice to increase the NHL draft age up to 19 (it used to be 19 or 20 – the "Ken Linsman rule" is when it changed in the 1970's) and move the CHL draft age to 15 (or better yet – 16!) Have the NCAA also allowed to come in at the same age as the CHL.

    Next year, the WHL is going to increase their roster size by two players to 25. People smarter than me have asked why they don't allow for an addtional two 20-year olds to make up this increase (up from three per team) to make the league more mature. This would fit nicely if they increased the NHL draft age.

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    Sources: Commissioners told Kelly to resign or be fired as College Hockey Inc. executive director

    By Todd D. Milewski • Executive Editor USCHO.com • Feb. 20, 2012

    Paul Kelly was given a choice Monday to resign or be fired as executive director of College Hockey Inc., sources said, and he chose the former.

    An erosion of trust in Kelly from the commissioners of college hockey’s five Division I men’s leagues led them to end Kelly’s two-plus-year term leading the promotional and marketing group.

    The announcement was made Monday afternoon by the Hockey Commissioners Association, which controls College Hockey Inc.

    Sources described a falling out between the commissioners and Kelly that had been a while in the making, based on a difference of opinions on College Hockey Inc.’s scope.

    But the final straw, the sources said, was Kelly recently approaching athletic directors from some ECAC Hockey schools about meeting to give College Hockey Inc. a more leading role in the administration of Division I men’s hockey.

    Kelly could not immediately be reached for comment. In a text message to TSN’s Pierre LeBrun posted on the broadcaster’s website, Kelly said: “Time to move on. I told them I’d give them 2-3 years to get the entity established and operational. It’s been 28 months and it’s time for a new challenge.”

    “The HCA would like to thank Paul for his service to CHI and wish him the best in his future endeavors,” Steve Hagwell, Hockey Commissioners Association president and ECAC Hockey commissioner, said in a statement.

    The commissioners group also said in the statement that it expects to discuss a “different course” for the executive director position. A replacement for Kelly was not immediately announced.

    Kelly, the former executive director of the National Hockey League Players Association, was hired in November 2009 by the commissioners to run College Hockey Inc.

    College Hockey Inc. was formed by the commissioners as a central marketing vehicle for college hockey. It is funded in part by a grant from the NHL through USA Hockey.

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    TMQ: BU and Kelly’s ouster

    By Jim Connelly and Todd D. Milewski • Senior Writers USCHO.com • Feb. 21, 2012

    Jim: That was a very impressive week for Boston College. Monday’s Beanpot final was dramatic and emotional and it would’ve been very simple to let up against Merrimack. It may have been convenient that the Eagles had further motivation — BC coach Jerry York going for win No. 900 — on Friday. But there’s no explaining Saturday and a tough road atmosphere in Merrimack’s Lawler Arena. That win took the determination of a champion. Man, where have we seen this before?

    Now, down Commonwealth Avenue, things may not be as nice where, for the second time this year, the Boston University Terriers have had a player arrested for alleged sexual assault. This time it was defenseman Max Nicastro, just two months Corey Trivino was booted from the team. It’s impossible to know exactly what happened in either case, but at this point it seems like the Terriers are developing a bit of a bad reputation. Being in Boston, I can tell you it was one of the top stories on all the newscasts all day on Monday. Regardless of the outcome, you have to think head coach Jack Parker is anything but pleased with his team’s reputation right now.

    Todd: It’s really a scary situation there, to be honest, and you have to think there’s going to be a lot of scrutiny on that program, not only from the media but also from the school itself. And there should be. These are serious accusations that have been made, and at some point, fairly or not, people are going to have to ask some tough questions of people in the program.

    Are these charges indicative of the culture of the team? It’s impossible to say from my chair, and I wouldn’t even want to go down that road with what we know now.

    Jim: I actually will say straight out that this is not indicative of the culture of BU’s team. But perception is reality far too often and it takes just a few small instances as such to damage a reputation.

    BU wasn’t the only big news this week. Late on Monday, the Hockey Commissioners Association announced that Paul Kelly has resigned. As USCHO.com’s story said, though, Kelly’s resignation may have been a bit of face saving. Now, I’ve met Paul a number of times and like him very much. But we all know he comes from a position of power at the NHLPA and, without knowing all the facts, we could speculate that Kelly wanted more power in the college hockey world.

    Todd: I still hope we hear from Kelly on this story because I think he can fill in some gaps. We’ve tried reaching out to him but haven’t heard back. The news was surprising when it first came out, but after hearing what sources had to say, it sounds like this has been brewing for a while.

    Let’s be honest here: The Division I men’s commissioners, it seems both individually and collectively, have ways that they like things to be done. So does Paul Kelly. Maybe it wasn’t exactly destined to come to this from the start, but there were strong forces on each side, and in the end the commissioners had the last say.

    It does bring up some important questions about the future of College Hockey Inc., and what kind of replacement the commissioners will seek.

    Jim: My thought is that the commissioners will look to take the solid roots that Kelly has put in place but get someone more in line with their thought processes to take the top role. And that’s not to suggest that Kelly wasn’t aligned with the commissioners in many ways. But I do believe that his past made him someone who could see himself as the overall spokesperson for all things college hockey. And the individual — and, as you mention, the collective — personalities of the five commissioners doesn’t seem to jell with that.

    I will say, though, what Kelly did in his two-plus years was a major positive for college hockey. He stirred debate, brought together college hockey and the NHL, created tremendous structure to the marketing of college hockey in general and served as a face that college hockey has never had.

    Todd: It would be a shame to go backward on the outreach that Kelly helped get going with CHI. The idea of the group is still much needed — in part, to get into places where individual college hockey teams can’t get because of NCAA rules — so let’s hope the overall message doesn’t get lost.

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    john
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    Dean where you play university? In the US or in Canada?

    Little off topic here but wanted to bring up something that most in Canada dont know about. Thats US ACHA (American Collegiate Hockey Association). The topic is for elite players, what about the good players that just dont get that opportunity to be part of an elite program?
    NCAA rules and guidelines are outdated, just look at the mess with the recent NCAA Football story lines. Title IX is also an issue and in the US the fastest growing league for College/University is ACHA.
    Formally known as Club hockey. The hockey is way too good now and far more organized than "Club" but its now sort of a sister league to NCAA. Let me be clear though, it is NOT NCAA level hockey. But the reason I bring this is up there are 300 school that play in the ACHA 3 levels. Now most of these are true non varsity sports and offered as a service the universities students. But the in the ACHA DI level and top DII teams are legit, they actively recruit and compete at high levels. The top ACHA teams play some NCAA DIII teams. Take a look at Lindenwood roster (http://www.lindenwoodlions.com/roster.aspx?path=mhockey&
    ). Liberty is where Ryan Walters son played and activity recruits Canadians ( http://www.liberty.edu/campusrec/clubsports/index.cfm?PID=15305).
    The reason this league is getting better each year is because there arent enough teams at NCAA for the players.
    I coached a ACHA DII team so I do have a bias. But I got NCAA caliber players that didn?t make NCAA team. I got a player that captained his Jr A team and aged out, went to NCAA DIII team in Mass and found out there were 15 players for 3 spots. Welcome to NCAA hockey! Where do those 12 cut players go? Most go ACHA.
    Anyway sorry that was long. Again for the sake of conversation and I would bet within 10 years ACHA will rival NCAA DIII programs because they don?t have NCAA restrictions like Title IX. If NCAA doesnt add more NCAA DI programs soon they will really suffer.

    And here is the real reason I mention this. Its gives players another option to continue playing. And isnt that why we coach? To help them reach their potential and continue playing as long as they want. At the end of the day it doesnt matter what

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