Reply To: Statistics – Used for critical area’s on the ice

[Kai K]

hockeygod wrote:

Kai K wrote:
This is interesting topic.

The question is; do you play fast forward to attack 1vs3, 2vs4, 3vs5 etc. where the risk of opponents turnover is high. Or do you pass backwards to regroup attack 5 vs 5?

But maybe I should continue with this subject in a Game intelligence thread.

Kai,

You could continue to talk about stats here; or about Transition itself in Game Intelligence. No worries either way!

How I understand your comment: do you attack even when outnumbered (high in the opponents zone) or do you pass backwards to regroup 5 v 5?

I believe the stats would say, "yes – attack sideways or forward immediately" – if your team recovers the puck after a turnover in this zone. Move the puck sideways or forwards right away as you have 3 seconds at the highest / most skilled levels. If you move the puck back (especially if you have already gained this much ice), you negate the critical "moment in transition" where the team who has lost the puck is in /no-man's land'. By moving the puck back, you give them time to adjust – and might have to wait for your team to get onside too!

Besides, in minor hockey, you would most likely have more time… maybe 4-5 seconds – to take advantage of the turnover (in the critical 'moment in transition') – even if your team is outnumbered on the rush / attack!

This is based on how I interpret the stats, discussions with Bjorn and my personal experience as a player and a coach.

Hope I have interpreted your question correctly? If not, please advise…

Yes Dean, you interpreted it correctly. (i'dont mean in OZ, but in DZ or NZ)

There has been great debate over this " fast to north or regroup when outnumbered" here in Finland for few years.

At first I was really sceptic about this puck possession style of the game, where teams if outnumbered would regroup. But I'm starting to see the idea behind it.
Firts option is to win space towards the opponents goal. which is passing or skating forward.
Second option is (if we cant play forward) to create space to win the space, by passin the puck sideways or backwards. So opition one (win space) if we can create even numbered attack (1-1, 2-2, ,3-3) or a odd man rush (2-1, 3-2, 4-3, 3-1). Option two (create space) If opponent outnumbers us .

So as I understand this philosophy, we are trying to minimize the opponent's chances to turnovers. Because if we attack unoranized when we are outnumbered the risk of giving up an odd man rush is high, (our player are out of position or distances between the players are too big.). But when we regroup and gather the five players we can control our distances and we are more likely to be in postion or inside the game if we loos the puck. " good attackin produces good defending".
And it works in defense too, good backchecking keeps the five players tight and allows fast short passes.

I hope english isn't too painfull to read and this makes somekind of sense to you, if doesn't make sense please ask, I'll try to explain my self better.
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What I teach is a 3 options.
1. Get the puck and make a play i.e. carry or pass.
2. If there is no play in front of you, you are outnumbered etc. then Regroup.
3. No play or regroup is possilbe then gain a zone. i.e. dump it out, get it in deep.
Tom
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Kai