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  • #2505
    CoachP7
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    Tom, as the puck shifts from the left to right corner (rim), my F3 (who was 5 o'clock) now becomes F1 and heads off the rim (ie 1st F closest to the puk). The former F1 and F2 (in the left corner) become the new F2 (second closest to puk in corner) and supports the new F1 and the other F becomes the new F3 and takes position at approx the 7 o'clock I was talking about.

    The D swing around in an umbrella type movement where the orig D2 goes hard to the half wall to support the new F1 (and becomes the new D1) and the orig D1 (who was "back pocket" when the puck was in the orig left corner) shifts over and is now on the blue line.

    Sorry, no graphics just my lonnnnng worded explanation !

    So, we do cover the wide rim pinch but keep the 2-2-1 formation.

    #2506
    TomM
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    CoachP7 you describe a good high pressure forecheck.

    The difference with the one I describe is that the RW and C are offensive forwards. The RD is an offensive defenseman and the LW is a defensive forwards with the LD being a defensive defenseman. The LW and RD stay on their sides of the ice but forecheck deep etc. playing with the RW and C. So they are like midfielders in soccer.

    You can't think of the traditional 3 F's in this style.

    Like any system it is effective if everyone buys in and understands their roles.

    Because all three F's don't have to move all the way across it creates pressure more quickly.

    #2513
    Paul
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    I need some assistance with bench management with the Torpedo system. I want to run with 4 Liberos, and 3 sets of four. Those four are the 2 Torpedos and 2 Halfback. I want to group these players into units and then have different Liberos work with them.

    My biggest concern is how to manage the bench. Any suggestions.

    #2514
    Paulie
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    Paul,

    As someone who used the Torpedo one year I hope you can benefit from my experience.

    Forecheck. I elected to teach the Cougar Pounce that Tom explains elsewhere on this site. Anything else was confusing and we frequently gave up odd man rushes. The major drawback was that we lacked a solid Strong side point position.
    I felt that the forecheck was the major failing of the Torpedo system. The only solution I considered was to tell the Librero and one of the Half-backs to assume the defencemen's roles while in the offensive zone. As the half-backs were converted centreman, somewhat unsure of the role, I decided not to. I had a lot of opposition to the implementation of the Torpedo.

    Face-offs: The Right Half-back took all face-offs on his side of the ice, vice versa for the Left. I didn't want to confuse things. The Librero always had net front. I also converted a few rushing defencemen to half-backs. They really struggled on the draw. In hindsight, I would have the best draw man take the draw. We were very poor on the draw.

    Bench: I changed the Torpedo's. They came in the door and hopped the boards to go out. My assistant Coach managed the Librero's and Half-backs. Librero's used the door for exiting and entering play; half-backs did same as Torpedo's.

    Paul, I hope this helps. If you want to discuss further you can email me at pf1flyer@pei.sympatico.ca

    Cheers,

    Paulie

    #2516
    Pops
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    Paulie –

    My plan is to become proficient in 'torpedoesque' methods during the upcoming months and then introduce them in the Spring. In theory (since I have no actual experience) it looks like a Triangular Shape in the area of immediate support, with a weak side reader and a dedicated D man might be the simple explanation.

    I also hope to improve on the venacular, but this is my silly concept at this point

    1 Scout ……immediate support / pressure
    3 Calvary…basically Mid Fielders but one is 'weak side' responsible
    1 Reserve Trooper…..the D Man
    1 Guard…..the Goalie
    1 Fort………the Net

    1 Wierd Coach…..me

    Pops

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